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delivery my way. covered by most insurance plans, including medicare. find your co-pay cost at myflexpen.com. ask your health care provider about novolog® flexpen today. hello, everyone. i'm don lemon. good afternoon to our viewers in the united states. i want to welcome our viewers in the u.s. and around the world. government shutdown day four. no end in sight. plenty of rhetoric, of course, but no progress in ending the shutdown. at any moment, we're expecting senate democrats, including harry reid, to speak live. and just a short time ago, the president of the united states chose a sandwich shop as a platform to make clear where he stands. >> part of the reason we're here is we're starving, and the food here is great. the other part of it, though, is that right now, this
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establishment is providing a 10% discount to all federal workers who are on furlough. plus a cookie. and that, i think, is an indication of how ordinary americans look out for each other. and aren't obsessed with the politics and aren't trying to extract concessions out of each other. they just try to make sure that everybody is doing their job and that we're doing what's best for the country. there's no winning when families don't have certainty about whether or not they're going to get paid or not. i have staff in the white house. there is staff all across the country, in rural areas who are working for the agricultural department department, for veterans affairs, who are on their job, despite the fact they're not been paid or have been sent home
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and want to be on the job because they're looking after their fellow citizens on a whole range of services. and as long as they're off the job, nobody's winning. >> interesting. so these impromptu comments from the president just a couple hours ago after republican house leaders met and apparently decided to ratchet up pressure on the president and the democrats. this is what happened when they stepped out of the meeting. >> this isn't some damn game. the american people don't want their government shut down and neither do i. all we're asking for is to sit down and have a discussion and to bring fairness, reopen the government and bring fairness to the american people under obama care. it's as simple as that. >> this week, the american people have seen once again that obama care is not ready for primetime. a dysfunctional website is the least of that law's problems. >> senior white house administration says it doesn't matter how long we're shut down.
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i believe it does. i believe the 57 democrats who joined with us on passing the legislation to open government back up believe it matters as well. >> we continue to hear from the president that the way out of this shutdown is to basically give him everything he wants. he wants the easy way out, without addressing the debt crisis, without addressing a stagnant economy, without addressing an unaffordable health care law. we've heard the president say that the republicans are holding the u.s. hostage. he's said he has bent over backwards to work with us. his words may sound good, but you know what, actions speak louder than words. >> our goal here wasn't to shut down the government. our goal here was to bring fairness to the american people under obama care. i don't believe that we should default on our debt. it's not good for our country. but after 55 years of spending more than what you bring in,
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something ought to be addressed. >> so did you hear the first words out of house speaker john boehner's mouth? this is a quote, he said this isn't some damn game. really interesting considering the exchange caught on a hot mike between senator rand paul, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. >> you have a second. >> i'm all wired up here. >> i just didn't see an end. i go over and over again. we're willing to compromise, we're willing to negotiate. i don't think they poll tested we won't negotiate. i think it's awful for them to say that over and over again. >> i do, too. i came back from a two-hour meeting with them, and that was what was basically the same view, privately, as it was publicly. >> if we kept saying we wanted to defund it, we fought for that, but now we're willing to compromise, i think -- i know we don't want to be here, but we're going to win this, i think. >> ah, well, you hear that from
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senator rand paul. we're going to win this. interestingly, a day later, you heard speaker john boehner saying this isn't a damn game. boehner was reacting to a comment from a senior obama administration official to the wall street journal who said, quote, we're winning this fight. i want to talk about this with all my guests, candy crowley, host of state of the union, on the right, conservative host ben ferguson, and on the left, maria cardona, cnn political commentator and democratic strategist. candy, i mean, can't we just make this stop? the speaker had to have heard this open mike. so why on earth did he even bring that up? >> don, if you don't think that both sides look at this through a political lens as well as a policy lens, then you're not paying that much attention. this is the fact of it, that political games get played in washington is lore.
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it's not a revelation. that the republicans were saying, listen. they're refusing to negotiate, was pretty evident on monday, tuesday, and wednesday, before this secret conversation, when republicans were out there saying, well, the president will negotiate with syria, but he won't negotiate with us. they clearly think that they are on a path that will help them convince the public that they're right and the democrats are wrong because there's no movement here. that's kind of the bottom line. >> candy, i want to go to senate leaders. stand by, let's listen in. including harry reid. >> last night, the president canceled his trip to asia for the two summits he had. the shutdown is obviously unfair to the american people, embarrassing to the american people.
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especially on the world stage. it's very important to international events the president had been planning to attend for a long time. he's being hamstrung in his efforts to keep america competitive and secure because republicans simply are unwill ig us to open the government. this kind of a basic function of what we do. whi allow the government to move forward. the shutdown is hurting our economy. and i had a aphonic conversation with elected officials in nevada, state and local officials. they're really concerned. the state of nevada is losing revenue as a result of the shutdown, as most states are losing revenue. this, though, is just not economic issues. it's also an issue about national security. the government shutdown is hurting our ability to enforce
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sanctions on iran. to gather intelligence, operate our armed forces, just to name a few. the treasury department is furloughed 90% of the employees in the office of terrorism, financing, and intelligence. that's their charge. and they're not able to fulfill that. of the 179 employees in the government sanctions monitoring agency, there's only 11 out of 175 working today. under secretary of state wendy sherman said, and i quote, our building enforced sanctions to stop sanction evaders is being hampered significantly by the shutdown, close quote. 72% of the communities work force has been affected by the government shutdown. listen to this, everyone. when i was showing these figures this morning, it was really incredible what's happened.
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900 ph.d.s, 4,000 computer scientists and mathematicians not working. even prior to the shutdown, the director of the fbi warned his agency would have to implement furlough days just to meet the painful sequester. now it's worse than that. >> all right, that's harry reid speaking, of course, on capitol hill. and i want to bring my panel back in. panel, it appears nothing has changed. candy, you were in the middle of a sentence. >> saying nothing has changed sta substantially. absolutely. we can reiterate that now. >> we'll move on. i want to get a quick response from all of you. candy, you were saying for those of you who think this isn't a political game and washington doesn't work like that, you're sadly naive. and we all know it, but you kind of cringe when you hear it. it's like you're eavesdropping about talking points and what they're going to do in strategy and they're saying it's not game, but it appears somewhat of
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a game to them. does that, ben -- go ahead. >> i mean, earlier, when you notrodoused the segment, you said president barack obama headed out for an impromptu lunch. it wasn't an impromptu lunch to get a sandwich. this is an orchestrated effort by jay carney, grinning in the background, to get the president to go out, make a political statement, act like he's one of the guys and saying here is a place you can eat for 10% off. you think barack obama knew that place was getting 10% off or his staff said, we need to respond to the republicans and go out? it is, unfortunately, a really big game. here's the problem. you just heard all the terrible things that can happen, as harry reid is talking about, with intelligence, this important trip and everything that's being canceled. there's a place called camp david. i think barack obama should maybe plan a trip to camp david. get everybody away from the cameras and say we're going to hang out for three days instead of 30 minutes in the white house and see if we it work it out if
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it's not a game, but i don't think he has a plan for that this weekend. >> what good would it be to spend money on all that? come on, they can meet at the white house, some other place. i get your point, but i don't see why they would go all the way to camp david to do it. you're right, it is a game. it is a political game, but i would vito say, when the president came out today with the vice president, going to a sandwich shop, he did look like the average joe to most voters. and it was a pretty good strategy today. go ahead, maria. >> it was a very good political strategy, and ben is right, of course it was planned. everything the president does publicly is planned. no question about that. and americans know that. but i think -- >> but let me say something here. there is a difference, though, between planning something and going out and doing it, then being overheard saying here's what i want you to do, roll your sleeves up. here's the talking points. there's a difference between the two. >> no question, and that's exactly what i was about to talk about, don, because here's the problem for republicans.
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that hot mike moment made an already untenable and indefensible position even more so. because it demonstrates to the american people, especially in light of the juxpuposititaposit what boehner said that this isn't a game, that this is exactly what the game is for republicans, and even worse, they're the ones who started this game. the government could be open right now if republicans and especially the small band of tea partiers who are now controlling john boehner, who frankly said after the election that for him, obama care was done, and that wasn't an issue. there was an election and it's been sd sided. he clearly is now being controlled by the puppeteers in the tea party. >> i'm glad you mentioned it. do it quickly because i have something for candy. go ahead. >> i would say this. and i said this the other day. if the white house and every democrat watching thinks that this is just a bunch of crazy nut job republicans who can't
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compromise, then why did barack obama walk out and say i refuse to compromise as a starting point on this? somebody, and if you're assuming the republicans are all crazy and off the rockers, someone has to be the common sense, go forward. going to a sandwich shop as the president did instead of saying let's get away from the cameras, let's work on a deal, let's try to get something done, is what presidents are supposed to do. that's exactly why there's camp david. >> that's what he tried to do this weekend. he invited them -- >> candy, we're going to get these two in a room. we're going to get these two in a room and you and i will go in a room and continue our conversation and let them hash it out. this is for candy, i want you to watch this ad targeting john boehner from a group that backs democrats. listen. >> i want --
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[ inaudible ] >> speaker john boehner didn't get his way on shutting down health care reform, so he shut down the government. and hurt the economy. >> it's good. candy, i mean, this will actually air in boehner's district in sunday's game between the bengals and patriots. i mean, it's kind of ridiculous, but is it effective? >> well, if their point is to unseat john boehner when he runs for re-election next year, i doubt it. and there in lies the problem there. and also some of the reason that this is happening. that is, when you look at the republicans, some of them -- what is it, 85% of all house members are incumbents that were re-elected. most of the house is in a safe
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seat. and that includes the republicans and the democrats. and they are there, they believe, to represent their district. so that's their world view. is their district. the senate's world view is, you know, tends to be state-wide, where they need independence to get re-elected. independence hates stuff like this. so their world view is different. and the president looks at a kind of -- looks at it from a federal, sort of national look. and obviously, the polls are clearly with him. so everybody has a different audience here. and they are, if you want to continue playing this game, with different players. so it makes it very difficult for them to find commonality here. >> yeah, and every time -- listen, i can't tell you, when i bump into people in the greshry store or in the office, whoever it is, they're saying, oh, my gosh. i'm sick of hearing the same thing over and over. what are they doing? just a quick question, ben and maria. i have a segment called no
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talking points. i think you participated in it, ben. you know how it came about? rand paul came on my show during the election cycle and started spouting off talking points and i said, that's it, i'm done with the talking points. yes, on both sides. then there he is on camera saying here's what we should say. >> talking points, poll testing, american people. >> candy's right. if anyone thinks this is all not just a big game, they're nuts. thank you, candy. thank you, ben -- >> i'm glad we saw an ad we can agree is childish and a baby crying, we can agree on that, right? >> oh, my gosh. >> i give up. good-bye. candy, thank you. candy is the only one with any couth on the panel. thank you, guys. up next here, new revolutions about the woman behind the we'll of this car.
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>> the dramatic car chase on capitol hill ended in a mother's death. we now know what investigators found inside her apartment and why she believed president obama was monitoring her. plus, happening right now, the family of the biker who was reportedly paralyzed in this attack is coming forward and insists we're not hearing the whole story. that's coming up. [ male announcer ] this is claira. to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for her, she's agreed to give it up. that's today? [ male announcer ] we'll be with her all day to see how it goes. [ claira ] after the deliveries, i was okay. now the ciabatta is done and the pain is starting again. more pills? seriously? seriously. [ groans ] all these stops to take more pills can be a pain. can i get my aleve back? ♪ for my pain, i want my aleve. [ male announcer ] look for the easy-open red arthritis cap. for my pain, i want my aleve. i save time, money,st, and i avoid frustration. you'll find reviews on home repair to healthcare, written by people just like you. find out why more than two million members
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selsun blue itchy dry scalp. we're digging for answers. so many questions after the wild car chase and shooting on capitol hill yesterday. >> oh, my -- what is happening? >> we all watched the scene play out. it was chaotic, so chaotic. a police cruiser crashed through a barricade. the chase started after a woman drove up to a barrier outside the white house. watch what happened when authorities tried to talk to her. [ gunfire ] >> well, the woman sped along pennsylvania avenue, all the way
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to the capitol. more gunfire when she stopped. and she was hit several times and killed. when police looked inside the car, they found no weapons, but they did find the woman's 1-year-old daughter in the back-seat. the child, fortunately, is okay. but the way police handled the situation raising multiple questions here. joining me now in new york, former nypd detective gil alba, here to hel me sort through all this. no gun, no bomb, a child, people are wondering did police act properly in this case. >> all these police departments are trained and work within each other especially around the white house. they're trained for this, for terrorism, for anything like this. so all this, what they did with her, and they didn't know it was a female in the car, of course, all this that they did, you know, was acting properly as far as trying to stop her from doing something which means that she could have bombs in the car, anything, to try to get into the white house, and nobody is going to stop her. once she takes off, there's
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shots fired. all these different police departments have their own 911, so they hear all these calls of shots fired and this crazy person driving around and they try to block her off and she rams them. so -- >> i'm surprised when people say why was this woman shot? sadly, she was shot, but when you look at the video, and the car is a deadly weapon, right? police don't know if she has a weapon inside the car until they stop the car. so again, sadly, she was shot. but i think most people would say, and if there's an investigation, that the police were justified in shooting her. >> well, i certainly feel that the police were justified in the fact that, you know, you approached her, and now you know it's a woman in the car starting to run. here she is, and now she's starting to run someplace outside the car. does she have a weapon on her? there's already shots fired. does everybody know whether she thoug shot back? is there something in the car? they took the proper action and stopped her. >> there was a lot found in her
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apartment. she's 34 years old, miriam carey. from stanford, connecticut. a laptop, three cell phones that don't work, medicine to treat schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, an antidepressant. what else might police be looking for? >> what's the big picture? what was she doing there? first, they were looking for explosives. what's the big picture? any terrorists involved, anybody else. that's what they're looking for. >> stand by, i want to bring in psychologist dr. wendy walsh in los angeles. wendy, we talked about this just the other day. you were sitting right here on the set with me in new york and we talked about mental issues, anger, all those things. carey's boyfriend says she was acting delusional, suffered from postpartum depression. what does all this say to you? >> first, don, if you don't mind, i want to correct you.
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you use the words the 1-year-old is okay. physically, the 1-year-old may have survived this, but the emotional trauma of watching your mother be murdered before your eyes will be stored in her eyes for the rest of her life. this is a terrible tragedy. but postpartum depression can go so far as to become postpartum psychosis. there are some who believe it was what britney spears was going through. in her case, she had the money to get the help she needed. i have so many questions about this. if the boyfriend, the father of the baby was so concerned, were they still living together? where was his family, where was her family? who are all the people who have a biological interest in this child and -- >> can we stop right there, and i agree with you about the child. absolutely. you can correct me any time. here's the other thing, when you said -- i want to go on your thought here. many times, you know this very well, even family members rng
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there's a stigma associated with mental health and mental illness. people don't want to talk about it or they ignore it when it's right in front of their eyes. do you think that probably -- possibly could have been the case here? and how do we correct that? >> it certainly may have been the case, don. and stigma, i'll tell you what's worse than stigma, though, is when there actually are concerned adults who can't get help because their child is an adult. you know, you can actually only help your child with mental illness until they're 18. then after that, they're actually free to be crazy if they choose not to take their meds, et cetera. but now you've got a baby and maybe the department of children's services should have been involved if she wasn't taking her meds or wasn't reacting to her meds the way she should have been, but i think more people needed to surround this family with support. this is a tragedy. >> she thought the president had put stanford under lockdown and her house was under
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surveillance. very reminiscent of the navy shooter who went into the navy yard and started shooting. he thought he was being controlled by magnetic waves. these are signs of a deeper depression and a deeper psychosis here, one would think. and wendy, the interesting thing that i want to say going back to our conversation that we just had the other day, this woman is in obvious need of mental health, and that means health care. and so what they're doing in washington is not really helping her, is it? >> no, not until she can go to health care.gov and get good coverage. i think, really, what we need to do is find a pathway to be able to surround and support all the single parents, whether they have mental illness or not, but specifically those who are clearly suffering from mental illness, to make sure that we as a village protect her and her child because there is a minor involved there. this is a baby whose life will be affected for the rest of her life. and i think it's a tragedy, and
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by the way, don, i know you guys were talking about that the police were totally in their right to just shoot her in the head, but i don't know. i've been watching a lot of cop shows. can't they just shoot the tires? doesn't that make the car stop? >> i agree with you. we can maybe get the detective back in. if i'm a police officer and you don't know what is behind -- who knows? what do you say to that? >> first, there was no stopping this person. you know, her mental illness or not, she went on her own. what was her mission? i don't know, and she had the baby in the back. and she ran out of the car. she was out, you know, her mission was, i think, to destroy herself. and this is one way of destroying herself. >> wendy, i listen what you're saying, and no one wants this woman to have been shot and killed. but if you look at that video, she's going after those officers with that car, which is a deadly weapon. and yes, we all have empathy, but if i was a police officer, i would do whatever i could to save my life. so thank you both. >> one thing -- >> understandable. >> when you shoot, you mean to
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shoot anybody. you don't mean to stop anything. you don't shoot somebody in the leg because then you have control over that. >> thank you, detective. thank you, wendy. more of this conversation. we'll continue to talk about this. >> so who was miriam carey? we'll learn more about her tonight when her sister speaks exclusively to ac 360 about their loved one who was shot and killed on capitol hill. miriam carey's sister talks exclusively to ac 360 tonight, 8:30 p.m. on cnn. we're watching a tropical storm in the gulf of mexico right now. how big a threat will it be and what are those who live along the coast doing to prepare? we'll have a live report for you. >> plus, we're finding out more about who will be charged in the biker attack on an suv driver in new york. don't go away. 's disease or ulcerative colitis is a daily game of "what if's". what if my abdominal pain and cramps end our night before it even starts? what if i eat the wrong thing? what if? what if i suddenly have to go? what if? but what if the most important question is the one you're not asking?
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storm from pensacola beach, florida. if you're going to monitor a storm, pensacola is a good place. when is she expected to make landfall? >> it's gorgeous right now in pensacola beach. people are out inenjoying this gorgeous day, but that's expected to change as tropical storm karen makes its way to the coast. it's expected some time saturday night, perhaps early sunday morning. when you talk to residents here, you don't get the sense they're all that concerned. one resident said she's more concerned about the auburn football game this weekend than she is about the approaching storm. so i asked the mayor, you know, with residents here seemingly not worried this is the storm of all storms, how do you prepare your community here for tropical storm karen? >> we know what storms can do. they can change on a dime. when that happens, you need to be prepared. what we try to do as a government, is let people know, listen, you know, time is of the essence. make sure you have your
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essentials. make sure you have your waterproof kit for your insurance, your valuables. make sure you have that water, that tarp and hammer ready, all those things to help you be prepared for three days and beyond, for that matter. >> don, he made the point that this area has been hammered by storms over the course of the last ten years. this area here also very saturated, which has you know, causes a lot of problems when that storm does make landfall. don. >> enjoy my hometown, not my hometown, but where i used to spend lots of my vacations from louisiana down to pensacola. let's hope they don't get hit hard. appreciate. wear your conscreen. coming up, the family of the biker who is reportedly paralyzed from this confrontation getting ready to tell the media their version of events. >> plus, cnn reveals the voice of siri. hear her story straight ahead. we went out and asked people a simple question: how old is the oldest person you've known? we gave people a sticker and had them show us.
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the nation' attention. new york authorities say they have identified the biker caught on tape bashing in an suv driver's window with the driver and his family inside. we've seen the shocking video that went viral and sparked a massive outcry. investigators say bikers spiked the car's tires, forcing the driver to stop. then the newly identified biker pulled out alexian uben and beat him and slashed him. they expect to bring the man in very soon. i want to bring in danny suvolose. is that a smoking gun against the suspect? >> more and more, it's amazing how much video we're getting in criminal prosecutions. that bring objectivity to a case. however, what if we didn't have this video? on just the facts, you do have a driver that speeds away from a scene of a crime, which in new york is potentially a felony. it's really fascinating how foofine the line is and how law
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enforcement has to make a judgment call based on who is right, who's going to be the defendant and who's going to be the victim. >> let's talk more about how this video will help because there's speculation the biker was trying to help him. is that no longer the case? >> it's hard to say from looking at the video. i mean, it's not the best. it's very high definition, but the initial part, what you clearly see is a land rover lurch forward, a range rover, sorry, lunch forward and run over at least a motor bike and knock people out of the way. that's real danger there. it's fascinating how this could go either way, except for at the end. at the end with the helmet. that's vigilanteism. that's going too far. >> it is. here's the thing. when you look at the beginning of the video, it looks like the biker insighted this. the people on the bikes are saying, no, no, there's more to the story. it looks leak he stopped short on purpose so this driver would have to stop or either hit him. >> it sure does. it's interesting because in
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civil law, for the most part, people who rear end other vehicles are almost always libel unless the person in front slowed down suddenly. you can see very clearly from the video the biker is facing behind him, he probably was aware that the car was behind him. >> if you hit someone from the rear, right, then you're in trouble, but not when there's videotape. things change. thank you. appreciate it, dana. coming up, cnn reveals the voice. one of the world's most famous voices at the moment. wait until you hear how she got the gig. plus this -- ♪ because nothing compares nothing compares to you ♪ >> sinead, back in the day. well, she's livid. first, she writes an open letter to miley cyrus. miley responds, now sinead is threatening legal action. [ female announcer ] we lowered her fever.
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siri, can i talk now? apple won't confirm it, but your ears won't lie to you. just wait until you hear the voice, the voice that literally stays with you if you have an iphone 4s or a newer version. siri has been unveiled. and the woman behind the mobile phone voice gave a special red-chair interview to cnn.com. >> hello, i am susan bennett. you probably know me. i'm the voice actor who provided the voice for siri. the first time i actually heard my voice as siri was when my friend e-mailed me and said, isn't this you? not bad, only two meetings today. and because i didn't have the
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newest version of the iphone, i went to the apple site, and that's where i heard the voice, and where went, oh. hmm. that is me. siri, would you like to be interviewed by cnn? this is about you, susan, not me. i started my life as a machine quite young. i was the voice of tilley the all-time teller, the first atm machine. ♪ i'm tilley the all-time teller ♪ ♪ i work for first national bank ♪ >> the siri voices were recorded in 2005, in the month of july. four hours a day for the whole month. so when i recorded those voices, i had absolutely no idea where they would end up. my voice can be heard on many gps systems. many telephone systems. >> siri, who is the real voice of siri? >> when i first discovered that
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that was my voice, to be honest, it was a little creepy. >> yes, it appears to be raining. >> i'm used to hearing my voice maybe in the airport, thank you for using delta airlines. but this real thing that you can interact with in your hand was a little -- it took some time for me to get used to it. but she and i are friends now. i'm leaving now, siri. have a nice day. >> thank you, susan. i hope you have a nice day as well. >> coming up, shocking new video of a driver opening fire during a traffic stop. find out what happened. >> plus this -- ♪ because nothing compares nothing compares to you ♪ sinead o'connor is mad.
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first she writes an open letter to miley cyrus. then miley responds to it. now sinead o'connor says she's going to sue, threatening legal action.
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he abandoned a life of wealth and privilege to serve the poor, something pope francis has already become known for. earlier, he mourned the loss for more than 100 african immigrants in a shipwreck off italy, calling today a day of tears. alex rodriguez, known as a-rod, filed a lawsuit today against major league baseball and commissioner bud selig. lawyers for the yankee slugger accuse mlb of paying the founder of the biogenesis clinic $5 million to cooperate. anthony bausch's clinic is at the center of baseball's performance enhancing drug scandal. a-rod was suspended for 211 games for alleged violations of baseball's drug agreement. he has appealed the suspension. riveting dash cam video to show you out of oregon. a man wearing camouflage military fatigues opens fire on a police officer who stopped him for speeding. take a look.
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>> eastbound. police, back in the car for me. you were speeding. right now, i need you -- sir, get back in the car for me now. sir, please get back in the car for me now. i told you, you were speeding. [ bleep ] [ gunfire ] 5326, shots fires, shots fires! 53-26, shots fired! >> this deadly shootout happens in august. the suspect drove about a half mile down the freeway before stopping. he was found dead inside his car with a single gunshot to the chest. three kids were also inside this car. they were not hurt. the officer was wounded but
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wasn't seriously hurt. goodness gracious. coming up, a big weekend for this woman. ♪ i came in like a wrecking b l ball ♪ >> as she gets ready to host "saturday night live" miley cyrus is being threatened with legal action by sinead o'connor. another infamous snl host. find out why, next. woman: everyone in the nicu -- all the nurses wanted to watch him when he was there 118 days. everything that you thought was important to you changes in light of having a child that needs you every moment.
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all right, you maybe won't believe this, i didn't at first, but it's true. sinead o'connor threatening to sic her lawyers on miley cyrus after miley called out her mental health on twitter. their beef started wednesday when sinead wrote a scathing open letter to miley after miley said her wrecking ball video was inspired by o'connor's nothing compares to you. you be the judge. ♪ because nothing compares nothing compares to you ♪ ♪ came in like a wrecking ball all i wanted was to break your walls ♪ ♪ all you ever did
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>> o'connor sees no similarity, in her first open letter, she told miley to stop pimping herself for the music business. miley fired back last week, tweeting this, before amanda bynes, there was, dot, dot, dot. miley is referring to o'connor's timeline from two years ago when o'connor said she was unwell and seeking help for mental health issues. sinead responded to miley. saying, you mock myself and amanda bynes for having suffered with mental health issues and having sought help. remove your tweets immediately or you will hear from my lawyers. it's not acceptable to mock any person for having suffered. well, last we checked, the tweet is still there, but miley later tweeted sinead, i don't have time to write you an open letter because i'm hosting and performing on "snl" this week. so if you would like to meet up and talk, let me know in your next letter.
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coming up, speaker john boehner says the shutdown fight isn't a game, and rips an obama administration official who talks about winning, well -- >> i think if we keep saying we wanted to defund it, we fought for that, but now we're willing to compromise on this, i think we're -- i think -- i know we don't want to be here, but we're going to win this, i think. >> we'll break this down for you. i dbefore i dosearch any projects on my home.
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>> i have a traumatic brain inju injury. >> i gave up the idea of a wife and a family. >> i'm mike conklin, we help the severely wounded members of the armed forces reach their full potential. my oldest son was wounded in tikrit, iraq. we have a tight, cohesive family. not all do. some don't have anybody to come home to. we can't forget them. when ryan moved into this unit, we did some things that are very simple. we put in these poles to assist him. >> each case is different. >> good job. >> some will need service dogs, housing assistance, mentors, getting an education. >> those are world war ii vets over there. >> it's a comprehensive package. >> we're doing a little bit of their maintenance contract. >> he talked to me every day, put me back to work, leped set
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up where i wanted to go. today, i'm a husband, a father. i have my own company now. >> we don't call this a charity. we really look at it as an investment. these were at one time children who grew up on our baseball fields, went to our grade schools, and then left our community to serve us. and eventually, they come back. it's a full circle of service. top of the hour, hello, everyone. i'm don lemon. government shutdown, day four. no end in sight, but just a short time ago, the president, well, he chose a sandwich shop, an interesting place to have his say on where things stand on the shutdown fight right now. >> when families don't have certainty about whether or not they're going to get paid or not. i've got staff in the white house. there's staff all across the country, in rural areas, who are working for the agricultural department, for veterans
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affairs, who are on their job despite the fact they're not getting paid or have been sent home and want to be on their home because they're looking after their fellow citizens on a whole range of services. as long as they're off the job, nobody's winning. >> so all that, nobody's winning stuff, triggered by comments from a senior obama official to the wall street journal who said, in no uncertain terms, we're winning this fight. is anybody winning, is this really a game? not if you ask house speaker john boehner. >> this isn't some damn game. the american people don't want their government shut down and neither do i. all we're asking for is to sit down and have a discussion and bring fairness, reopen the government and bring fairness to the american people under obama care. it's as simple as that. >> okay, excuse me. he says this isn't some damn game. really interesting considering this exchange caught on a hot
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mike between republicans senators rand paul and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. >> do you have a second? >> i'm all wired up here. >> i just didn't see an end. over and over again, we're willing to compromise, we're willing to negotiate. i don't think they poll tested, we won't negotiate. i think it's awful for them to say that over and over again. >> i do, too. i just came back from a two-hour meeting with them. and that's basically the same view privately as publicly. >> i think if we keep saying we wanted to defund it, we fought for it, but now we're going to compromise, i know we don't want to be here, but we're going to win this, i think. >> dana bash, dana is our chief congressional correspondent. doesn't it make you cringe, before i get to the other stuff? does it make you cringe? it's like we're eavesdropping. >> i think it's great we get to eavesdrop on those conversations. are you kidding? it's like being a fly on the wall in their office.
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it's not -- i don't think anybody offing watching is shoc falling off their couches or chairs, that there are political negotiations and strategizing going on on both sides. >> but actually seeing it on television, overhearing it is a different story. >> i know. >> let's move on. all this game talk and finger pointing. is there any way out of this shutdown soon? >> you know, that is the question everybody wants to know. and unfortunately, the news i'm going to deliver is, i don't see or hear any real conversations going on. what's going on in public, this sort of fight to get the upper hand with regard to the pr of this, is all that's going on. no discussions about how you get out because democrats are really dug in, saying they don't feel the need to negotiate any more than they have, and republicans keep saying, why not? however, there are discussions beginning to go on about the next fight, which is really less
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than two weeks away, don, and a very big one, the debt ceiling deadlike. so far, we're told those talks are going on sort of within the walls of john boehner's office, with his inner circle and perhaps others inside the republican party, trying to figure out on the house side, trying to figure out what they can potentially extract from democrats. even though the president says i'm not negotiating on the debt ceiling. i want to break the fever. senate democrats say the same thing. john boehner and his folks are trying to figure out what they can potentially do moving away from the obama care issue, moving towards things dealing with addressing the debt and deficit. what they might do, what they might ask for, i'm told they're not even sure yet. but even john boehner said publicly today what he has said privately. he's not interested in the u.s. defaulting on its loans. now, we should point out that he's also said he wasn't interested in the government shutting down and here we are. one thing that he has said, according to sources we talked to, deirdre walsh, is in
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private, that if they come up with this kind of potential plan and it sells to the white house, then he would be willing to put it on the house floor, have a vote that could get democratic support, and maybe not even the majority support of republicans. that is very different than what he's doing now, which is why there's such deadlock. >> all right. dana, you're doing a great job. i do not envy you, though. thank you very much. i appreciate it. so at the root of this battle royale going on in washington, republicans backed by the tea party and their determination to do away with obama care. joining me now is don adams founder of the independence hall tea party association. you heard dana talking about the debt ceiling. you said you want to end the shutdown now with a big "but" so what's your take here? >> well, thank you so much for having me. i think it's really important that people realize the tea party is not a monolithic group.
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there are some of us who from the very beginning who thought defunding was not a realistic strategy. that perhaps delaying the individual mandate and ending the subsidy to congressional staffers was the better approach and a better way to go. >> would you support a clean bill from the house speaker that does not include a defunding of the president's signature health care bill? >> i think it depends. i think it depends a great deal on the situation. i mean, there's a hurricane now brewing in the western part of the country. do we really want a government shutdown in the middle of all this. it's problematic, very problematic. i think, however, during the debt ceiling negotiations, there's an awful lot to be gained and republicans have an upper hand in that situation. >> this weekend, an ad is going to air in house speaker boehner's own district. it's made by a group that backs the democrats. i want you to listen then we'll talk about it.
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[ crying ] >> speaking john boehner didn't get his way on shutting down health care reform so he shut down the government and hurt the economy. >> so, taking a swipe at the tea party, tea party republicans, too. what's your response to that? >> well, first of all, i disagree with the premise of that ad. mr. obama refuses to negotiate, has refused to. mr. reid is refusing to negotiate. mr. obama has already negated a large -- many measures of part of the obama care law. for instance, he has done away with the -- at least delayed the employer mandate -- >> hang on, hang on. let's do one thing at a time.
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hang on, hang on. i'll let you get to that. what do you mean the president has refused? let's talk about that here. you say the president has refused to negotiate. this thing has been -- it's gone to the supreme court. people have wanted single-payer. that didn't happen. that was negotiated down. so now that this is, this health care bill is the law, even the supreme court ruled on it, what do you mean by the president refuses to negotiate? i don't understand that. >> well, i'm talking about the current time. during this timeframe that the president has refused to negotiate or budge on the individual mandate, which is a real penalty on a lot of americans. >> let me ask you this. if -- hang on, hang on, please no talking points. let's really talk. so if someone -- >> not a talking point. i'm giving my honest opinion. >> if someone filed a lawsuit against you and the court said in the lawsuit, you don't get any money. you're done, then why would i negotiate with you on something that the court has decided on
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already? something that is already law? why should i negotiate with you? >> look, i already mentioned, the president himself has already said he will not enforce the employer mandate. i don't understand why he's going to enforce the individual mandate, which is a penalty on americans. >> i asked my question was why would i negotiate with you for something that the court has already decided? >> i'm sorry, the analogy just doesn't work. it's just a really bad analogy. this is not about a lawsuit. this is about pending legislation. >> okay. the legislation that is a bill now. it's not really about pending legislation. this bill is now a law. it's not about pending legislation. >> the continuing resolution is pending legislation. and negotiations during the debt ceiling are critical and important for the federal government to get the deficit under control and get deficit spending under control. these are all issues americans care deeply about.
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i think the way this is being played as political theater and entertainment is really rather disgusting. >> okay, let's move on. i want to talk about ben stein. a hard-core financial conservative. he agrees with you in part. he, too, has part with obama care specifically, but the difference is he said let it fail on its own. take a listen. >> three republicans started out the idea of universal health care. three republicans in 1973 sent a message to congress asking for universal health care. it was killed by edward kennedy for no good reason. it's a perfectly good idea. there are glitches in the implementation, let's get them fixed, or if the plan is so bad it's going to shut down the government or the country, let's put it in effect and ruin the democratic party for generations. >> if obama care is faulty, you heard what ben stein said, will it fail on its own? does he have a point? >> he certainly does have a point. that's why our group was more interested in delaying rather than defunding, because
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obviously, by delaying the implementation of parts of this, the american people could then gradually see how this is not working. we saw the glitches taking place with registration for obama care the past -- since monday. things are not working out well for the administration. people are not signing up for health care. obama care. and there's just an awful lot, i think, that goes into all of this that eventually the american people are going to realize obama care is a bust. >> yeah, okay. thank you. thank you, don adams. we appreciate it. >> thank you so much. i really do appreciate it. we are learning more now about the woman who was behind the wheel in that harrowing d.c. car chase between the white house and capitol hill. [ gunfire ] >> her name is miriam carey.
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she was 34 years old. she was shot by police and killed. she lived in stanford, connecticut, and she had a 1-year-old girl in the back seat. i think it was 13, 14-month-old. deborah feyerick has been doing terrific work on the story, and she's piecing together what authorities are fining out about carey. police searched her apartment, tell us what they found. >> one of the most important things is medication. there's a question to what was going on inside her mind when all of this was going on. they did find two different kinds of medication. one is to treat bipolar symptoms, also schizophrenia, the other is an antidepressant they found inside the apartment. a boyfriend had told police back in december that in fact she was delusional, that she thought that president obama was surveying her electronically, that also she felt her city was on lockdown. so whatever was troubling her, it appears that on thursday morning, she got into a car and drove to washington, d.c. to go to the white house.
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she was turned away, and that's when everything turned bad. >> her boyfriend talked to police several months ago, saying she thought president obama was monitoring her, she thought stanford was on lockdown, right? what do you know about this? >> this goes to her state of mind at the time. this was a boyfriend, this was according to sources who know sort of the conversation of the boyfriend and what he told police officers. but he was very concerned about the well-being of the child. it's believed the little girl was both his and hers. and he called police saying that he felt the child was in danger. she was taken in and actually evaluated for mental health issues back in december. and so things were happening. but why she decided to do this, why she decided to go now, that's a huge question. there was an envelope that authorities found at the apartment in stanford, connecticut, and the envelope had some sort of a substance in it. that is now in the hands of connecticut state police.
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it's at a lab. they're testing it to see what it was, but investigators couldn't get in until early in the morning because they had to actually make sure that the hazmat teams went in and cleared the entire area, made sure it wasn't dangerous. >> on the way in, as i bumped into you, we said mental health, mental health. people don't like to talk about it, there's a stigma, but we need to get a handle on it. >> coming up, i'm going to speak live with dr. gale salts about what these medications tell her and the paranoia about president obama monitoring her. and later this -- >> remove the burdens of those who are the collateral damage of this government shutdown. dear god, help our lawmakers. they can know the right but not do it. >> so he is the man who opens the senate with a prayer every day, but this week, his message is getting more and more
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nation's capital had schizophrenia medication and an antidepressant in her portment, and a boyfriend reported that she once thought president obama had her apartment on lockdown for surveillance. dr. saltz is here. miriam carey said she experienced postpartum depression. did that play a role? what role did it play in this, and what happened? >> what you're describing are psychotic symptoms. the thought that the president has your place on lockdown, et cetera. >> the postpartum depression could do that? >> postpartum depression which could occur in 10% to 15% of women who deliver is really about depression. a small subset, if they're left untreated, can go on to become psychotically depressed. that's postpartum psychosis or other things can cause it, which means psychotic symptoms like delutions, like auditory hallucinations. it's only 1 or 2 out of 1,000 births that will have that but
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it's a psychiatric emergency and it means they need immediate treatment. >> here's the interesting thing, i hear people all the time when they're going through issues in a relationship or whatever, even family members, they'll break up with somebody. they're acting erratically, acting crazy. isn't that the time you pull closer to that person to help them instead of leaving them hanging? >> you're speaking of a real problem, which is the stigma and shame that surrounds mental illness and the fear that you might somehow feel these same feelings this other person is feeling makes people pull away when the very thing they need is not people just stepping in and supporting them, which they do need, but they need people to take them to an emergency room or make sure that they see their psychiatrist more than once or make sure they're taking their medications, especially when they're talking about postpartum situations because there's a baby who needs to stay bonded with their mother, but they need another adult who is involved, who is making sure that the baby is really being taken care of.
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>> i had recently a friend who had broken up with her boyfriend. she said, i can't deal with him. i said, you need to. you put ten years together. you need to go back to them, take care of them, and then deal with the breakup. >> it's humanity, about being a decent, ethical person. let me say in this instance, what we needed to happen, what we understooded as a community, as a nation, to train our first responders. we don't get to see these people until farther down the road. it's the police, the fire, the people who are called because something happened. if they were trained with the signs that say, hey, something psychotic is going on, and they were told, this person needs to go to an emergency room, they were brought, like the naval yard shooting, if that person had been brought to an emergency room and seen a psychiatrist, they would have been basically forced to take medication and it may never have happened. >> you are great. i'm going to talk to the producers. i want to get you back if you're
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available. i think this is a huge issue we're not dealing with in society. >> there are ways to deal with it. >> and we're looking at it the wrong way, right? >> yes, in a way. >> just because you have a mental issue or problem doesn't mean you're a bad problem. just means you're going through something. >> half of americans have an issue or a problem, and i don't think half of americans are bad people. yeah. >> thank you, i appreciate it. >> a pleasure. >> we'll see you soon. >> so, who was miriam carey? we'll find out more tonight when her sister speaks exclusively to ac 360 about their loved one who was shot and killed on capitol hill. miriam carey's sister talks exclusively to ac 360 tonight, don't miss that. coming up next, the family of the biker who was reportedly paralyzed in this attack is coming forward. they insist we're not hearing the whole story. that's coming up. but they didn't fit. customer's not happy, i'm not happy. sales go down, i'm not happy. merch comes back, i'm not happy. use ups. they make returns easy.
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well, new york authorities are saying they know who bashed in the window of an suv driver caught in a biker swarm. investigators say the biker played a direct role in the beating of alexian leen, an suv
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driver seen fleeing for his life in this viral video. cnn's national correspondent is susan candiotti and has the latest on the suspect's i.d. >> we believe this man who is suspected of being the guy wearing the shiny helmet, should be turning himself in some time soon, but it was one of the most frightening parts of the biker video. right at the end, a family in their suv, traffic trapping them in, unable to escape bikers. now bikers know who's the man behind the beating. police have now tracked down the motorcyclist who shot this helmet cam video, questioning him and taking the video as evidence. until now, we have only seen an edited version posted online. it cuts off moments before authorities say alexian was pulled out of his suv, beaten, and slashed in front of his wife and 2-year-old child. the family now issuing its first statement since the incident.
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our plan last sunday was to celebrate our wedding anniversary by having a nice family day out with our 2-year-old daughter. unfortunately, instead, we were placed in grave danger by a mob of reckless and violent motorcyclists. his wife defended her husband's decision to peel away from the crowd surrounding their suv, rolling over bikers in the process, critically injuring one. my husband was forced under the circumstances to take the actions that he did in order to protect the lives of our entire family. cnn has learned it was mrs. lian who made the last of three 911 calls the couple made as her husband was being attacked. we would like to thank the brave citizens who risked their own safety to intervene on our behalf, they truly helped save our lives. new video emerging today showing bikers gathering before sunday's rally and riding on sidewalks, prompting the politicians who released it to call for more enforcement. >> i don't see why you can have
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500 motorcycles that are doing wheelies and that are out of control stopping traffic, totally stopping traffic in the highway or on some treats, and doing whatever they want. >> one of the motorcyclists, jerome davis, witnessed the confrontation and told outfront, they're not just some wild gang. >> it is not a gang. we're not a gang. >> and how would you describe it? >> as a gang? >> yeah, instead of a gang. what's the right word, do you think? >> family, unity. friends. >> remember, one biker's already been arrested for slowing down and causing the first collision with the suv. his lawyer said his client's not guilty, but the case far from over. police searching for more witnesses, more evidence, going through frames of video bit by bit. and even today, that man who was critically injured, a lawyer for him, goloria allred, said he wa a victim, too. he was only trying to help the suv driver when he wound up
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being crushed himself. >> not over yet. still going to hear a lot about this. thank you. appreciate that. coming up, a big mystery revealed. >> siri, what are you wearing? >> aluminum sill akate glass and stainless steel. >> who is siri, really? the mystery woman behind the voice revealed. plus, cnn ireporters sound off on the shutdown. one that says he doesn't even know this country anymore. but first, have you seen this guy? >> during this legislative stalemate, help our lawmakers to test all things by their conscience. >> so he's the senate chaplain, and he gives a daily prayer before each senate session, and he does not hide his opinion on what he thinks needs to happen in washington. that's next. when our little girl was born, we got a subaru. it's where she said her first word.
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so, hello, everyone. bottom of the hour, don lemon here. you have heard the bickering in congress, but now, a different perspective on the government shutdown from a daughter trying to understand how her dad is not essential. to a world war ii vet who doesn't recognize the nation he risked his life for. cnn ireporters have uploaded more than 1,000 submissions to our website about the government shutdown. hear now their stories in their own words. >> i know that many people have certain disdain for federal employees. they believe that they're nonvalue added, they're part of the jobs program, but i assure you that's not true. >> is the republican party just there to obstruct everything? it seems that the republican party is united on one concept, obstructing and opposing everything. but have they brought up any
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ideas up to replace the things they're opposed to? >> why should we pay congress for a job they have not done? i don't agree at all that congress should continue to be paid during the shutdown. let them feel the wrath they have put on to everyone else. >> most of the people i work with over the last several years when the military has been at war have gone above and beyond to insure that the navy has the best war-fighting capability in the world. >> enough already. >> my pay has been frozen for the last three years while my bills have continued to go up. i purchased my home at the height of the market and today it is worth less than what i bought it for. and i have not defaulted on my mortgage, and my family bills continue to be paid. >> today was actually the day i was supposed to wake up and start on my road trip to mt.
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rushmore, and i can't do that. >> i've lost my $10,000 income for my family as compared to previous years. in order to pay the bills, i depleted my savings, approximately $10,000 worth of savings that is now under $1,000. and now i find myself in a situation where i'm being furloughed again. >> my income is the sole income for my family, and i am concerned that i cannot pay the bills moving forward if the shutdown continues and a furlough continues. >> it's going to affect me because of my business. if i don't have my business, i don't eat. >> i really don't understand why the government can't work
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togeth together. we're a family, pretty much, that should be able to work together. >> i really don't blame either party. i believe that both parties are trying to do what they think is right. we just want to do our jobs and provide for our families. >> so you're not powerless. you have a voice. you are welcome to upload your thoughts on how the government shutdown impact you. head to cnnireport.com. all one word. >> a man of god is prodding congress to end this shutdown stalemate. senate chaplain barry black says, quote, save us from the madness. he gives a prayer at the start of each senate session. today, he visited the house and senate to remind lawmakers the same capitol police who protected them during yesterday's car chase and gunfire are working without a paycheck. >> lord, we're grateful for our law enforcement agents and first responder responders, and pray that we may
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emulate their patriotism and self-sacrifice. today, give our lawmakers the vision and the willingness, remove from them that stubborn pride which imagines itself to be above and beyond criticism. forgive them for the blunders they have committed. >> so usually, black's prayers are apolitical, but the senate chaplain has been prodding lawmakers for a week now. >> deliver us from the hypocrisy of attempting to sound reasonable while being unreasonable. remove the burdens of those who are the collateral damage of this government shutdown.
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dear god, help our lawmakers. they can know the right but not do it. they can comprehend their duty but not perform it. during this legislative stalemate, help our lawmakers to test all things by their conscience, so keep us from shackling ourselves with the chains of dysfunction. >> black has held a nonpartisan post since 2003. previously, he was a u.s. navy rear admiral. coming up --
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police on a high-speed chase from the white house, capitol hill, with her child in the back seat, has a lot of people wondering, did police do the right thing by opening fire? >> well, the woman was 34-year-old miriam carey of stanford, connecticut. law enforcement source says schizophrenia medication and an antidepressant have been found in her apartment, and a boyfriend once called police reporting carey thought
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president obama had locked down her hometown and her house was under electronic surveillance. brian todd digging into the police tactics during this case. brian, you know, we're hearing some people question the way police handled this. i want you to watch, mark o'mara, george zimmerman's defense attorney, said on cnn today. >> my only concern is when the car stops and there's those few seconds where we empower our police officers to use deadly force if they have to, it may have been handled in a calmer way that may have avoided shooting a woman. >> so brian, what are you hearing? >> we have run that comment by the d.c. metropolitan police, the capitol hill police and u.s. secret service police. they're not commenting on that remark by mark o'mara or others who are questioning whether police used appropriate force. however, we did speak to our two law enforcement analysts, mike
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brooks and tom fuentes. both former policemen. both former law enforcement agents as well. what they're saying is, look, at that moment when she finally was stopped, the third time, they had no way of knowing she was really finally stopped. that the last checkpoint or barricade or whatever it was that she actually, this came to a final conclusion and they shot her, that that was going to be the moment where this was all going to end. she had previously been stopped twice, one at the white house and once at the foot of the capitol by police. both times she broke away, striking police officers. they had no way of going whether this was going to come to an end, whether she was going to end it right then and there. >> i was having this discussion with a former nypd detective, and the e-mail said on the air, and somebody saw that and said, that car is a 1400-pound weapon. it's not as if she wasn't armed. >> that's right. everybody we talked to, that
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car, she was using that car as a weapon. the fact it appears now that they didn't find any firearm in the vehicle or any kind of explosive or anything like that really, you know, it's not immaterial, but it just doesn't mean that she didn't have a weapon. she had a weapon. she was using that car as a weapon. she had used it at least a couple times. and again at the time, don, they don't know who she is. they don't know whether she's got a bomb in the car when she's giving chase and they don't know if she wants to set it off in the capitol, the white house, or in a crowd. that's another big consideration for why they shot her. >> brian todd, thank you. coming up -- >> hello, i'm susan bennett. you probably know me. i'm the voice actor who provided the voice for siri. >> well, i don't know you because i can't afford siri. i don't have an iphone with siri. coming up, you want to see this interview that reveals the voice of siri. she's got a fascinating story. >> first, the governor of
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pennsylvania's governor tom corbett does not try to hide his opposition to same-sex marriage. in fact, yesterday, he compared it to sibling incest. listen. >> there was a controversial remark made by a member of your
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legal team, comparing gay marriage to the union of 12-year-olds saying both are illegal. which you called inappropriate. >> it was an inappropriate analogy, you know, i think a much better analogy would be brother and sister, don't you? >> i don't know. >> well -- >> i don't know. yeah. >> really? later, cobt's office released an appallacy. quote, my words were not intended to offend anyone -- did he really say that? and if they did, i apologize. pennsylvania state law defined marriage as between a man and a woman. coming up, speaker john boehner said a shutdown fight isn't a game and ripped an obama administration official who talks about winning. well, this. >> i think if we keep saying we wanted to defund it, we fought for that, but now we're willing to compromise on that, we're --
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we, i think, i know we don't want to be here, but we're going to win this, i think. >> boehner's own party caught on hot mike talking about winning. we're going to break this down next.
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the debt ceiling. government shutdown. the standoff in congress. it's no damn game. just ask house speaker john
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boehner. >> this isn't some damn game. the american people don't want their government shut down and neither do i. all we're asking for is to sit down and have a discussion and to bring fairness, reopen the government and bring fairness to the american people under obama care. it's as simple as that. >> just as simple as that. quote, this isn't some damn game. interesting, considering republican senator rand paul was caught on an open mike saying quote, we're winning. jake tapper joins me now live from the capitol. so jake, all this triggered by comments from a senior obama administration official who said quote, we are winning this fight. i doubt that this is going to be the end of this winner/loser rhetoric, is it? >> probably it will be the last time you hear these words publicly but this is, of course, how politicians and political consultants talk about this, because right now, obviously there's a standoff and i don't mean to belittle the true and
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real suffering going on out there from people who have been furloughed, from people who need their paychecks, from people who depend on various social programs that aren't being funded right now. but to a lot of people in this town and in the building behind me, this is a showdown and one side has to blink, to an extent. so that's why you have senior obama administration official going on background to say that they think they're winning, they do, they think the polls indicate, which they do overwhelmingly, that the american people do not support this republican strategy, whereas rand paul was reflecting the fact that they thought that they had hit upon a better message because republicans are now saying they want to negotiate and the white house is refusing to negotiate. but i don't think -- usually when people talk about winning in a public setting like that, it ends up being a real loser. >> yeah, absolutely. jake, we'll be watching. jake tapper, "the lead" starts at the top of the hour on cnn. many of you have been telling cnn just how you feel about the partial shutdown of
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the government. the feedback, not pretty. folks visiting st. louis can't even enjoy a trip to the arch, it is closed. ted rowlands talked to some folks there who are absolutely fed up. >> reporter: wherever we have gone this week, we are hearing basically the same thing. people are absolutely disgusted with the federal government. we're in st. louis today, which of course means the arch. you can still look at the arch, of course, but it is closed, meaning you cannot ride the trolley inside and people are not happy. the sight inside the locked gates at the st. louis arch says it all, telling visitors they can't come in because lawmakers can't get along. an average of 700,000 people come to national parks and federal attractions like the arch every day. many of those people are furious. >> well, i think they ought to stop playing silly games like a bunch of little kids and get this thing done and straightened out. otherwise comes november or whenever they're up for re-election, don't worry. we're not voting for you.
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>> reporter: this was a trip you had planned? >> this was on my bucket list. not going to get to do it, i guess. >> we were hoping to go to the top. actually my wife's birthday on sunday and we got the kids out of school and came here for the weekend, and don't get to do that now. >> reporter: what message would you send to the federal government and lawmakers on capitol hill? >> hold hands and get along. get back to work. >> reporter: about 70 federal park employees have been furloughed at the arch. karen bollinger is with the company that runs the trolley inside the arch. 48 of her employees are not getting paid and unlike federal employees that may get compensated down the road, they will never get paid. what message would you like to tell lawmakers? >> to please come to your resolution soon. every day matters. we wake up every morning hoping that this is the day that it will come to an end, and we're ready to get back to work. >> reporter: don, this park underneath the arch is normally
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full of people waiting to go into the museum or ride the trolley. today, as you can see, just a few people out here. that means businesses around here are suffering. they will not get compensated down the line. they're just out money. people are absolutely disgusted by what is going on in washington. don? >> ted rowlands, thank you, at the arch. coming up, the moment you have been waiting for. the voice of siri reveals herself to cnn. when our little girl was born, we got a subaru. it's where she said her first word. (little girl) no! saw her first day of school. (little girl) bye bye! made a best friend forever. the back seat of my subaru is where she grew up. what? (announcer) the two-thousand-fourteen subaru forester. (girl) what? (announcer) built to be there for your family. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.
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so apple won't confirm it but your ears won't lie to you. just wait until you hear the voice, the voice that literally says -- stays with you, i should say, if you have an iphone. siri has been unveiled and the woman behind the mobile phone voice sat down with cnn's "new day." >> of course, my colleagues in atlanta, family and friends, of course, immediately recognized my voice. but it's kind of been a mystery and it's such an unusual thing, such a unique, you know, it was -- >> how does it feel to pull back the curtain a little and reveal yourself? >> i don't know yet. i'll let you know later today. >> bennett says she learned she was the voice of siri after the iphone 4s came out. she says she was extremely flattered but she also says quote, it was a little creepy.
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go to cnn.com for the full interview. shouldn't we have done that interview by iphone? don't you think? i think so. make sure you watch me this weekend. i'll be here all evening, watching the government shutdown. in the meantime, you're in the capable hands of jake tapper and "the lead." so i'm to understand now that there are democrats and republicans who think that they are winning in the shutdown. so does that make the 800,000 furloughed americans the losers? i'm jake tapper. this is "the lead." the national lead. out to lunch. president obama grabs a bite because it's not like there's a functioning government to run. meanwhile, both sides think they're winning this debate which makes you wonder what dictionary they're using. also in national news, why did she do it? a mother shot dead after ramming into barricades at the white house. her young child in the car with her. today, new clues about the mental state of miriam carey. and the a